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After this exclusive first look for subscribers, the story by AdExchangerâs Sarah Sluis will be published in full on [AdExchanger.com]( on Wednesday.
When Bonnie Kintzer became the CEO at Trusted Media Brands three years ago, the Readerâs Digest publisher had just emerged from bankruptcy.
Kinzterâs mission was to turn the company around and get it growing again. She had worked at Readers Digest before and appreciated that the company had âvery strong brands that were absolutely serving the customer. They never lost that focus.â
Because of that connection to customers, circulation revenue remains high, largely due to people buying Readerâs Digest, Taste of Home and Family Handyman.
While the publisher bets that some people will still want physical products, whether itâs a magazine or a recipe book, content consumption continues to shift online. A big focus in the coming year will be ramping up digital content production, which Kintzer plans to increase by a factor of five or 10.
âWe know that whenever we add more content, we get more engagement, and if we get more engagement, we can drive more advertising,â Kintzer said. âSo in that way itâs a very simple strategy.â
She cites successes like Facebook, where Taste of Home has racked up more than 5 million followers and posts generate engagement rates as high as 25%. The company will add 35 staffers in the coming year to increase video production and the publisherâs technical chops.
Kintzer and Chief Revenue Officer Rich Sutton talked to AdExchanger about steering a print-digital hybrid company.
AdExchanger: How are you looking at the future of subscriptions as content consumption shifts online?
BONNIE KINTZER: We sell both print and digital subscriptions, but we definitely are primarily print. We call our titles the âsnark-free zone.â Readers love our magazines because itâs a respite from the rest of the world, a pleasure that comes to your mailbox. We are committed to print, but we have more content online than ever before and see our traffic grow as the result of that.
How will you accelerate that digital growth in terms of revenue?
KINTZER: We know we can grow digital advertising considerably more than we are now, led by the content. I want to make sure we give consumers what will benefit them because thatâs where the ad dollars come from.
If we invest resources in content creation, we will be able to monetize it with quite a long tail. Our content is evergreen, so thatâs wonderful. That lasagna you make today is the lasagna you still love to make the next year. The Readerâs Digest inspiring story is still inspiring. With Family Handyman, everyone will end up with a broken toilet at some point.
A lot of magazine companies are rich in subscriber data. Whatâs the data opportunity for you?
KINTZER: We are part of Merkleâs PAM: Publisher Addressable Marketplaces. We have 98 million records, which is quite a lot of data. For us, it harkens back to our roots. We are a very data-driven company, so itâs natural for us to use that to help our advertisers.
What kind of demand is flowing through Merkleâs PAM right now?
RICH SUTTON: The opportunity there is that Merkle was just bought by Dentsu, so that will pour a lot more demand into PAM, and thatâs going to give everyone who is in PAM more opportunities to test it out, if you will. We have done a couple of campaigns and yes, theyâve worked.
Those 89 million records you have â where are they coming from?
SUTTON: Itâs all data that ties back to known records. There are people who register for newsletters, and there are people who are magazine subscribers, and we match those to cookies. And then we match people who come to the site with a database of mobile IDs.
What social platforms do you work with?
KINTZER: We work with Facebook all the time, and Instant Articles has been going well for us. We use Google AMP. Pinterest drives a lot of traffic for us: People love beautiful graphics, and Taste of Home has very beautiful food dishes. For Family Handyman, whether itâs a beautiful deck or shed, people use Pinterest for their inspiration.
Do you feel like the value exchange between social platforms and publishers is in a good place right now?
KINTZER: For Facebook Instant Articles, in most but not all instances, we are happy with the financial relationship. And if we are not happy with it, we just post the links back. We have a choice.
How much are you focusing on display vs. sponsored content vs. programmatic for digital ad growth?
KINTZER: We work directly with our advertisers to create integrated packages, which is where we think we can deliver the most value. We do sponsored content particularly on the Taste of Home recipe side, and Family Handyman does, too.
Programmatic is important to us. We have a great programmatic team and private exchanges. Again, what is the advertiser trying to achieve? Sometimes a takeover makes sense, and sometimes itâs a broader programmatic program.
What trends do you see out there helping publishers?
SUTTON: The raging debate about fake news, ad fraud and transparency is helping publishers like us. I just read about an advertiser who said he would pay more to be in a safe, well-lit environment because premium brands need to be protected.
And what trends are hurting publishers?
SUTTON: Programmatic is a double-edged sword for publishers. It makes stewardship of digital campaigns really easy for agencies, and thatâs something agencies and marketers have been complaining about for years. But on the other side, because programmatic grew up around remnant inventory, the expectation is that it will be cheap. Thatâs a problem.
Because video is supply-constrained, it hasnât had that race to the bottom element that programmatic display has. Do you do much programmatic video?
SUTTON: We are seeing a lot of demand in the market, even from programmatic. We have backfill guarantees, so suppliers or demand-side partners who want programmatic when itâs available will guarantee a floor CPM, and you donât see that on display at all.
Are you seeing better pricing in programmatic guaranteed?
SUTTON: With programmatic guaranteed, they also expect to pay less than if they wrote it on an IO. Some are doing [programmatic guaranteed] to hit their reach and frequency goals, and others are doing it because they want to know what their environment is.
What was your reaction to the P&Gâs Mark Pritchardâs comments calling for more unified standards and third-party accreditation?
SUTTON: I was saluting him and applauding, because itâs crazy to have so many different standards. When youâve got seven different standards for viewability, and all the other problems Mark laid out, and you can get rid of them? On the other hand, you wish there was more than comScore.
Whatâs so wrong with viewability standards right now?
SUTTON: The real issue with viewability is that no one can measure it. There has to be one standard that everyone agrees on, and the IABâs standard makes the most amount of sense. If you use a sticky ad and put on whatever measurement you want, no one will measure it at 100%. So you need a sane standard.
This interview has been condensed and edited.
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