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I have a good friend whom I love and care about. She is married to a man whose alcoholism has gotten worse over the years; he is also both verbally abusive and controlling of her. They have a son who is 12. My friend participates in Al-Anon, a support group for friends and family of alcoholics, and is also going to therapy. We talk about once a week, and she tells me awful stories about her husbandâs drinking and subsequent abuse. I have talked to her about leaving, and emphasized the support that I and other friends would give; she maintains that she is not ready to leave. (She has a good job with benefits and salary, so itâs not a financial issue.) Iâm never sure what I can say to let her know that I support her but think her husbandâs abuse of her is unacceptable. I heard a podcast on this subject advising saying something like, âI know how smart you are and that youâll know when to leave,â and Iâve used that line a lot. Recently, her husband picked up her son from a friendâs house and drove with him while drunk. This still did not cause her to take her son and leave. I really donât know what to say anymore. â Name Withheld From the Ethicist: A proverb from my part of Ghana says, âMarriage is like a groundnut; you must crack it to see what is inside.â Itâs hard to figure out whatâs going on in other peopleâs relationships. In particular, thereâs no one-size-fits-all answer to why people stay with abusive partners long after their friends have all concluded that they should leave. Although your friend offers you no explanation for why she remains with her abuser, the fact that she regularly tells you about his appalling behavior indicates that she is highly aware of the problem and seeks corroboration and support from you. So far as I can tell, youâve done all the right things: Youâve made it clear to her that she is a person of value, that she doesnât deserve to be treated this way, that she isnât alone and that sheâll have a good network of support if she chooses to leave. Youâve let her know too that you understand the suffering her husband is causing and the menace he poses, helping her see her situation as clearly as possible. Itâs certainly a dismaying one. While alcoholism can worsen domestic abuse, it doesnât entirely explain the propensity to engage in abuse. And given that heâs driving their son around when heâs drunk, heâs a danger to both of them. But, as you recognize, the decision to leave is ultimately hers to make. Even if the abuse rises to the level of a crime, the police are unlikely to be able to do anything about it unless she confirms whatâs happening. Sheâs fortunate that she has someone like you with whom she can discuss her husbandâs conduct. Youâve preserved the relationship because youâve found a way to dissent from her misguided loyalty to her husband without tearing her down. Keep asking her what you can do to help. And though you canât dictate what she can do, promptings can be made in the spirit of friendship. Like you, I worry about the danger to her son. According to [a 2014 analysis](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlyk7JP0TNaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubmNiaS5ubG0ubmloLmdvdi9wbWMvYXJ0aWNsZXMvUE1DNTc1MTQxMC8_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MjgyJmVtYz1lZGl0X3RlXzIwMjMwMjExJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTg1MTE3Jm5sPXRoZS1ldGhpY2lzdCZyZWdpX2lkPTc3Njc0OTUyJnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MTI1MDkyJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD1hYTQ5MWVmN2YxZDk2NGU0OTc5ZmI3ODRlNzRlMDFkN1cDbnl0Qgpj4cnJ52NUbe70Uht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~)of C.D.C. data, nearly two-thirds of children who die in impaired-driving crashes are passengers of the impaired driver. Driving drunk is, to be blunt, a typical way that parents kill their children. Ideally, your friend would take pains to ensure that her son was never in a position to be driven by her husband. At the very least, you could suggest that she instruct the boy not to get into the car if his father shows up drunk. (For that matter, the friendâs parents shouldnât have let him be driven by a man showing signs of intoxication.) She could give him access to a ride-share account and tell him to use it instead. It would probably be best if she told her husband that she was doing this. But she may be too afraid of her husband to take such measures, and she would have to make a judgment about whether that would make her son a target of abuse. Whatever your friend does, she ought to discuss the situation with her son, who must already be aware of some of whatâs going on. Therapy could be helpful to him, too. Discussing these options with her will reinforce the reality that her husband is a threat to her son as well as to her â and further motivate her to move them both out of harmâs way. Being a bystander to this sort of horror show can make a person feel powerless. Youâve made it plain that youâll walk with her to the exit. All you can do is stay with her and hope sheâll take the necessary steps. Thoughts? If youâd like to share a response to todayâs dilemma with the Ethicist and other subscribers in the next newsletter, fill out [this form](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlyk7JP0TaaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMy8wMS8yMC9tYWdhemluZS9ldGhpY2lzdC1jb21tZW50cy5odG1sP2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPTI4MiZlbWM9ZWRpdF90ZV8yMDIzMDIxMSZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD04NTExNyZubD10aGUtZXRoaWNpc3QmcmVnaV9pZD03NzY3NDk1MiZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTEyNTA5MiZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9YWE0OTFlZjdmMWQ5NjRlNDk3OWZiNzg0ZTc0ZTAxZDdXA255dEIKY-HJyedjVG3u9FIbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA). FROM THE ARCHIVES Back in 2016, the Ethicist answered another question about social dynamics and spousal abuse. [[Article Image] Illustration by Tomi Um](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlyk7JP0TzaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAxNi8wNy8zMS9tYWdhemluZS9jYW4taS1zdGF5LWZyaWVuZHMtd2l0aC1hbi1hYnVzaXZlLWh1c2JhbmQuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0yODImZW1jPWVkaXRfdGVfMjAyMzAyMTEmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9ODUxMTcmbmw9dGhlLWV0aGljaXN0JnJlZ2lfaWQ9Nzc2NzQ5NTImc2VnbWVudF9pZD0xMjUwOTImdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPWFhNDkxZWY3ZjFkOTY0ZTQ5NzlmYjc4NGU3NGUwMWQ3VwNueXRCCmPhycnnY1Rt7vRSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~) [THE ETHICIST Can I Stay Friends With an Abusive Husband? The magazineâs Ethicist columnist on navigating friendship with a couple and their destructive dynamic, and whether to break confidentiality to let a friend know she will be fired. By Kwame Anthony Appiah](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlyk7JP0TzaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAxNi8wNy8zMS9tYWdhemluZS9jYW4taS1zdGF5LWZyaWVuZHMtd2l0aC1hbi1hYnVzaXZlLWh1c2JhbmQuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0yODImZW1jPWVkaXRfdGVfMjAyMzAyMTEmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9ODUxMTcmbmw9dGhlLWV0aGljaXN0JnJlZ2lfaWQ9Nzc2NzQ5NTImc2VnbWVudF9pZD0xMjUwOTImdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPWFhNDkxZWY3ZjFkOTY0ZTQ5NzlmYjc4NGU3NGUwMWQ3VwNueXRCCmPhycnnY1Rt7vRSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~) Readers Respond The previous newsletterâs question was from a woman wondering whether she should allow her sister and her sisterâs husband to fund an investment account in her 1-year-old daughterâs name. The sister had previously cut off contact with our letter writer. Feeling conflicted, our letter writer wrote: âI donât want to accept funds from a couple who have proved emotionally abusive and tie my daughter to a potentially harmful relationship with them. Still, I wonder if declining funds on behalf of my 1-year-old is not fully my decision to make. Should I decline?â In his response, the Ethicist noted: âWhat you call emotional abuse comes across like a pretty ordinary family row. ⦠The natural way to interpret [your sisterâs offer] is that after a year of shunning you, sheâs trying to re-establish a relationship. ⦠As a parent, your job is to act in your childâs interests; as a person, youâll want to be mindful of your own. Alienating your daughter from her aunt isnât likely to advance either goal.â (Reread the full question and answer [here](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlyk7JP0ToaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMy8wMi8wNi9tYWdhemluZS90dWl0aW9uLWZpbmFuY2VzLWRpdm9yY2UtZXRoaWNzLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MjgyJmVtYz1lZGl0X3RlXzIwMjMwMjExJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTg1MTE3Jm5sPXRoZS1ldGhpY2lzdCZyZWdpX2lkPTc3Njc0OTUyJnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MTI1MDkyJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD1hYTQ5MWVmN2YxZDk2NGU0OTc5ZmI3ODRlNzRlMDFkN1cDbnl0Qgpj4cnJ52NUbe70Uht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~).) ⬥ Yes, the relationship should not be severed, but I wouldnât take any money. From the sound of the sisterâs behavior, it could be a tool for her to manipulate the relationship in the future. I highly doubt there would be no strings attached to the gift. Gifts can become a heavy burden. â Chris ⬥ The letter writer seems more like the problem than the sister. These sound like squabbles that do not require slamming the proverbial door on a relationship. Donât screw up a relationship over this, and take the money. (And say thank you graciously.) â Shelley ⬥ Although I agree with the Ethicist that the investment fund may be the sisterâs way of starting to repair the relationship, giving someone the cold shoulder â the silent treatment â is a form of emotional abuse and manipulation, not to mention an immature response to the situation. That was the red flag in the letter for me, and it was disappointing not to see that acknowledged and considered in the response. â Ann ⬥ Envision your sisterâs side: You kicked her out of a room and didnât come to her wedding. Itâs actually quite kind of her to give anything to your child. If you donât want the money, suggest they fund a charity instead, since you all seem to be well off. â Misha ⬥ Money is power, and any time you accept a large amount of money from someone, you give them power over your life. In my first marriage, I insisted that we not take money from our parents. 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