How Israeli spies watched Russian spies watch Americans.
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Russia, Russia Everywhere
[Israeli spies watched the Russians spy on Americans through the systems of Kaspersky Lab, an internet security company. Here a Kaspersky employee walks behind a glass wall at the companyâs headquarters in Moscow.]
Israeli spies watched the Russians spy on Americans through the systems of Kaspersky Lab, an internet security company. Here a Kaspersky employee walks behind a glass wall at the companyâs headquarters in Moscow. Kirill Kudryavtsev/Agence France-Presse - Getty Images
Each Friday, Farhad Manjoo and Mike Isaac, technology reporters at The New York Times, review [the weekâs news]( offering analysis and maybe a joke or two about the most important developments in the tech industry. Mike is off this week, so Nicole Perlroth, who covers cybersecurity, took his place. Want this newsletter in your inbox? [Sign up here](.
Farhad:Â Hello, Nicole! Mike is away this week â honestly, I canât even remember his excuse this time, Iâm sure itâs a real doozy. But I suspect itâs not as fun as talking tech news with you!
Nicole: I think I saw him tweet something about a near-death experience [with a frayed USB cord]( Likely story.
RUSSIANS HARNESSING AMERICAN TECH
Farhad: O.K., it was a big week in tech. We should probably start with the thing weâve been talking about every week for, what, 300 years now? Facebook and Russia. [In a report this week]( a couple of our colleagues found that when Russian operatives set out to sow civil unrest in America on Facebook, they turned to an obvious source â political messages posted by Americans.
The Russians created Facebook pages that had names like âBeing Patrioticâ and âBlacktivist,â and they populated their pages with videos and memes created by Americans â for instance, a hoax story about Muslim men collecting welfare checks for multiple wives. I found the story fascinating because the whole thing is so banal. You have this picture of foreign spies using James Bond-type technology to go after an enemyâs political system. Nope, turns out they went about it exactly how you or I might do it â they found some videos online and posted them on Facebook.
Nicole: Yup. It turns out the Kremlin has found their sweet spot in the ugly fault lines in American politics. Theyâve truly exploited our countryâs political grievances, cultural resentments, news literacy and diminishing faith in once-trusted institutions like the news media to bring out the worst in us, simply by creating some Facebook pages. Who would have thought that Russians would be behind a pro-Texas fan page disseminating pro-secessionist Texas messages, or a âBlacktivistâ page advocating for more protests against racial inequality?
Farhad: It wasnât just Facebook. [Google disclosed this week]( that Russian operatives also bought ads on its platform to interfere with the 2016 race. The amounts were small â about $4,700 in ads from the Russian government â but they added to the overall story line, which is that the tech giantsâ platforms are being used in ways they probably had never foreseen.
Nicole: Did we really think Russia was going to try to hack election databases in 21 states, and pour that many resources into Facebook and not touch Google, the No. 1 source of information for most Americans?
Itâs frustrating that this is only coming out now, but to be fair, much of the Russian activity was not exactly obvious. The silver lining is that we may finally be getting some answers. This week, the House Intelligence Committee said it would turn over Russian Facebook ad content, after [meeting with FacebookâsÂ]( operating officer]( Sheryl Sandberg.
THE WEB OF KASPERSKY
Farhad:Â Letâs turn to another story about Russian spies, this one not at all banal. The United States recently discovered that a Russian antivirus company, Kaspersky Lab, had been compromised by the Russian government. The software was essentially being used as a kind of search engine for spying â the Russians could search through the files of people whoâd installed the software, and in some cases it led them to classified documents, including from an employee of the National Security Agency who had stored files on a home computer.
Thatâs pretty amazing by itself. But what was most amazing was how the spying was discovered â because Israeli spies were watching the Russians spy on the Americans, [as you and Scott Shane reported](. Thatâs crazy! Can you explain how it went down?
Nicole:Â My reporting can basically be summed up as: Spies were spying on spies spying on spiesâ spying. Are you with me?
Farhad: Erâ¦.
Nicole:Â So in 2014, the Israeli governmentâs hackers managed to compromise Kaspersky Lab, a Russian antivirus company with 400 million users, many of them in Western Europe and the United States.
Here I should mention that some two dozen American federal agencies used Kasperskyâs software, including some of the most critical agencies like the Department of Energy, which oversees our nuclear program. Kaspersky was so thoroughly âownedâ by the Israelis, that nearly a year later when Kasperskyâs researchers discovered the intrusion, its own researchers called the Israeli attack code âthe best we have ever seen.â
As it turns out, the Israelis were so deep inside Kasperskyâs systems that they watched â in real time â as Russian spies used Kasperskyâs systems effectively as a Google search box for American classified government programs. The Israelis caught Russian spies searching any computer that contained Kasperskyâs software for the words âTop Secret,â in a sense abusing Kasperskyâs deep access to the innards of more than 400 million peopleâs machines to search for American government classified programs.
In at least one case, the spies struck gold: They discovered a trove of highly classified National Security Agency programs on an agency employeeâs personal computer. Apparently the employee had installed the Kaspersky software on his home computer, not knowing that in doing so he was giving Russians full access to some of the N.S.A.âs most coveted programs for penetrating foreign networks.
Israel was able to capture all of this in real time and provided the N.S.A. with evidence in the forms of screenshots and other documentation, which is how the N.S.A. learned the source of this particular leak. The tip also prompted tons of internal discussions and studies within the United States intelligence community, which eventually led to a government ban on Kaspersky products last month.
Farhad:Â Kaspersky is a real mystery in this. Theyâve denied any wrongdoing, but is it plausible that they wouldnât have had an idea that their tools had been infiltrated by the Russian government?
Nicole: This is the mystery indeed. I sent Kaspersky a detailed list of questions that gave them ample opportunity to offer any explanations. But they declined to answer any of those questions. Instead they put out a short and vague statement and sent me [a Rihanna GIF on Twitter](.
There are still some possible technical explanations for how Russia could have used Kaspersky as a backdoor without Kasperskyâs knowledge. But most counterintelligence experts, including one we quoted from the Central Intelligence Agency, insist there is no way these kinds of broad scans for United States intelligence could have been conducted without Kasperskyâs knowledge.
And even if Kaspersky was not complicit, these experts say, that would still mean Kaspersky is either grossly incompetent or horrendously compromised. As a security company, neither is optimal.
Farhad:Â Thatâs been quite the week! Thanks for joining me, Nicole. See you!
Nicole: Ciao! Or as they say in Russian âÐÑоÑай!â
Farhad Manjoo, who joined the Times in 2013, writes a weekly technology column called [State of the Art](. Nicole Perlroth joined The Times in 2011 and covers cybersecurity. You can follow them on Twitter here: [@fmanjoo]( and [@NicolePerlroth](.
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