Anne Hathaway Is Done Trying to Please

Introducing The Interview, The New York Times’s new weekly series. 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Each week, David Marchese or Lulu Garcia-Navarro will speak with notable figures in the worlds of culture, politics, business, sports, wellness and beyond. Like the magazine’s former Talk column, the conversations will appear online and in print, but now you can also listen to them in [our new weekly podcast, “The Interview,”](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRoD1jRP0T1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyNC8wNC8yMi9wb2RjYXN0cy90aGUtaW50ZXJ2aWV3LXBvZGNhc3QtdHJhaWxlci5odG1sP2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPTUyJmVtYz1lZGl0X21hXzIwMjQwNDI3Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTEyMTY4MyZubD10aGUtbmV3LXlvcmstdGltZXMtbWFnYXppbmUmcmVnaV9pZD03NzY3NDk1MiZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTE2NDk1MyZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9YWE0OTFlZjdmMWQ5NjRlNDk3OWZiNzg0ZTc0ZTAxZDdXA255dEIKZifR0yxm4scLNVIbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAD) which is available wherever you get your podcasts. 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