🐐 LeBron vs. MJ: The GOAT Debate Intensifies

LeBron James’ fourth NBA title adds more power-punching ammunition to the GOAT debate. [View in browser]( [FOX SPORTS INSIDER WITH MARTIN ROGERS] In today’s FOX Sports Insider: The intensifying LeBron vs. Jordan GOAT debate is a game within the game, and it is far from being over ... we take a look at why the biggest threat to the Lakers going forward will be the last two NBA stars to beat LeBron ... and we are treated to an incredible highlight from a high school football game. We are now at a point where there is not only a legitimate, vibrant GOAT debate in basketball, but we are also locked on the certainty that there will always be one. LeBron James got close enough to Michael Jordan by winning his fourth career NBA title on Sunday that there is now heavy, power-punching ammunition on both sides in the “greatest of all time” stakes, a race that somehow manages to feel intensely serious and frivolously absurd at the same time. Those minded to lean towards James already believe there is sufficient weight of evidence to anoint him as the best ever. Yet even if the Los Angeles Lakers star were to add, say, three more titles, there would still be huge numbers of Jordan supporters who would refuse to sway on their man’s worth. The lingering … scratch that … intensifying debate is a game within the game and anyone can play it. Some do it better than others, armed with stats and convenient perspective. Yet remember this; it is an uneven pursuit that frames differently in the mind based on things like age and emotion and the mere fact that in sporting arguments, you are allowed to make your own rules. [STORY IMAGE 1] “My son is 11 and he has his mind blown by the fact that LeBron has reached the NBA Finals 10 times,” lifelong NBA fan Anton Symons told me. “For me, the sweet perfection of Jordan having gone 6-0 in the finals is bigger – and better.” That generational divide is part of it too, not so much for the records but for the memories. Those old enough to have lived through the Bulls’ streak of domination, especially if they were in their teenage years at the time, are unlikely to ever be pulled away from Jordan. How could they? Jordan felt omnipresent in a way that is really no longer possible. There were fewer options for media and information a quarter century ago, which meant that if you were watching sports television, you were seeing Mike, his sneakers, his swagger and all those wins. If you were reading about sports, through newspapers and magazines because, yes kids, that’s how it was done back in the day, you were going to be bombarded with Jordan, all the time. Similarly, if you are growing up as an impressionable youngster right now, not just aware of James’ dominance and gravitas but living through it, how can you truly feel there is someone greater than a man who is always the story at the end of the season and has 64.3 million Instagram followers to boot? [STORY IMAGE 2] The GOAT chatter kept us talking through the pandemic, continued during the regular season and manifested throughout the playoffs - and it isn’t going to cease in the wake of the Lakers defeating the Miami Heat in six games to conclude the bubble campaign either. “Jordan had it,” [FOX Sports NBA analyst Chris Broussard said](. “Now this latest narrative keeps LeBron alive or at least keeps people open-minded. I still have Jordan No. 1, LeBron No. 2. Jordan dominated the NBA in a way LeBron hasn’t. Jordan had two three-peats. Once Jordan started winning, no one else could win. He kept a host of Hall of Famers from winning championships. “Jordan did not have a weakness. For LeBron – free throw shooting is a weakness. The lack of a midrange pull-up game is a weakness. It is a small one but it is there and it hinders him a little bit.” [STORY IMAGE 3] Until or unless James gets to six titles, it is going to be difficult for many to see past the simple differentiator of championship rings. Yet the James brigade carries a loud voice and comes armed with some compelling arguments, too. And, with Anthony Davis now by his side in Los Angeles and momentum seemingly behind him, there will surely be opportunities for James to secure extra hardware in the coming years. “There is a chance, maybe a good one, LeBron drives this GOAT conversation closer to a consensus than anyone would have imagined possible a decade ago,” [wrote Zach Lowe on ESPN.com](. On First Things First, [FS1’s Nick Wright answered Broussard with a series of points]( referencing Jordan, including how he struggled to find success before the arrival of Scottie Pippen, that he never beat Larry Bird in the playoffs, and had a 2-6 postseason record against the Boston Celtics, Detroit Pistons and Orlando Magic. [STORY IMAGE 4] “I would agree that if we are deciding the only years on Jordan’s career that count are the years he won championships, well, that’s a hell of a resume,” Wright said. “But that’s not how this works. You can’t get the points you scored the other years, the MVPs you won the other years, the defensive awards you won the other years but then say (nobody else won). “The only time the Bulls faced a real contender in the East during the title runs, the first time they faced the Magic they lost to them. That doesn’t count either though, because (your) rules are that we can only talk about what he does well. What the media doesn’t want you to know about Michael Jordan could fill a library.” Even the storylines provide fuel for dispute. Jordan’s comeback from a two-year baseball hiatus is part of his mystique, and for his followers, it only enhances his legacy. On the flip side is James’ consistency, being able to be right there, at the forefront when it matters, for more than a decade. Frankly, we could argue this all day but there’s no need for that, because there are years more of this kind of talk to come. By its very nature, an objective debate can have no winner. It continues, as it must, until there is no longer a debate at all because no one is willing to argue the case of the less popular side anymore. We are not there and, as is growing increasingly likely, we may never get there. [STORY IMAGE 5] Here’s what others have said ... Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated: “The G.O.A.T debate will never be settled, not as long as there are barrooms and barbershops. The Michael Jordan faction will point to Jordan’s flawless Finals record, his decade of dominance, his ability to succeed in a more physical era. James’s supporters will point to his ten Finals appearances, his now four championships and statistical achievements thicker than a Dickens novel. There will never be a consensus.” Magic Johnson, NBA Hall of Famer: “LeBron James is well on his way. If he wins one more [championship], Michael and him are going to be right there together. If he gets that next [championship], it's going to be hard not to say he's right there with MJ. I said the next one, which will be five [for LeBron], because with six [for Jordan] and four [for James], it's hard to say he's overtaken Michael at four championships. I think once he wins [a fifth title] and repeats -- the key word is repeat -- that's a good argument right there.” Brad Botkin, CBS Sports: “Reasonable minds can obviously disagree, but it's the foundation of your argument that matters. Go deeper than the rings, because rings are contextual. For as much as each player can control individually, I think LeBron is better because he played against better competition in a more defensively sophisticated era, the latter of which I weigh heavier than the over-romanticized physicality of the 1990s.” [IN OTHER WORDS] - Bubble ball is over, which means Steph Curry and Kevin Durant are back in the championship conversation. [The Ringer’s Jonathan Tjarks]( writes that the biggest threats to the Lakers will be from the last two stars to beat LeBron. - The 2020 WNBA season will be remembered far more for the leadership and impact players made off the court than for the games on the court — though those were amazing too. [Yahoo Sports columnist Shalise Manza Young]( explains why the WNBA’s “wubble” stood for activism, for Black women and for so much more than basketball. - Is Mookie Betts the missing piece that pushes the Los Angeles Dodgers to a title? [Jonathan Abrams of the New York Times]( has the answer here. [THE INTERNET IS UNDEFEATED] [THE INTERNET IS UNDEFEATED]( We love to highlight youth athletes in this section of the newsletter, which leads us to our featured post of the day. Check out this run by Jackson High School (MI) standout Dorion Riley. The senior running back takes a handoff, jumps over the first defender who tries to tackle him, and then hits another defender with one of the nastiest stiff-arms you will ever see in a high school football game, before turning on the jets and running into the end zone for a touchdown. We could be looking at a future Adrian Peterson here. Take a bow, Dorion. That was impressive! [VIEWER'S GUIDE] Atlanta Braves vs. Los Angeles Dodgers (FS1, 6 p.m. ET) Mookie Betts and the Los Angeles Dodgers take on the Atlanta Braves in Game 2 of the National League Championship Series. Buffalo Bills at Tennessee Titans (CBS, 7 p.m. ET) Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills travel to Tennessee to take on Ryan Tannehill and the Titans. Tampa Bay Rays vs. Houston Astros (TBS, 8:30 p.m. ET) Jose Urquidy takes the mound for the Houston Astros, who go up against the Tampa Bay Rays in Game 3 of the American League Championship Series. [BET OF THE DAY] [BET OF THE DAY] Odds provided by [FOX Bet]( Buffalo Bills at Tennessee Titans: BILLS -3.5 Fans are in for a treat on Tuesday night as a pair of undefeated teams clash in Tennessee. Josh Allen and the Bills take on Ryan Tannehill and the Titans in a rare Tuesday night NFL matchup. Tennessee hasn’t taken the field since its 31-30 victory over Minnesota back in Week 3. The Titans’ Week 4 matchup against the Steelers was moved back to Week 7 due to the team's coronavirus outbreak. The Titans could be without several key players who remain on the COVID-19 reserve list, while the Bills are close to full strength, led by QB Josh Allen, who has emerged as a consensus early-season MVP candidate. Buffalo’s offense ranks among the league leaders in both yards-per-game and points-per-game, while the Titans give up the third highest total yards-per-game average in the NFL (422.3 ypg). Taking the Bills at -3.5 seems like a solid play here. 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